Best DMR Rifle Optic – The Vortex Viper PST Gen II 2-10x FFP Scope Review

Welcome back everybody.

Today we’re going over this scope that you see in my hands right here and then you probably saw on a couple rifles in the intro.

This is the vortex Piper PST Gen 210 to 210 by 32 first focal plane scope, so there’s all mouthful there we’ll get into all those details coming up later in the post.

But I’m probably gonna say it 10 times in this post however the reason I was kind of digging this scope is I like the tudas heads.

It’s one of my favorite magnification ranges you know I know will power variable optics like the one Mystics is one that eats etc are very popular right now.

However sometimes in order to get you know a good eye box or different things that those scopes tend to struggle with you have to spend a lot of money or go with a heavier optic with a bigger tube like a 34 or 35 millimeter tube stuff like that with a 210.

You can keep it nice and lightweight and get good magnification of course and still have decent and closing capability.

So I think it’s a very it’s a very versatile magnification range. So what we’re gonna do is a little bit more shooting let the dogs take a look at it and then we’re gonna get into details on the scope itself and at the end we’ll go over what I think of it overall

Now that the dogs have bust off on it we’ll get into the details of this scope. We’ll start here at the rear and move forward.

We do have a fast focus. I ring here and what’s nice about it is it’s somewhat stiff to move. I say that it’s nice because wherever you set it it’s kind of where you want to be it never move again.

So for those who don’t know the fast focus eyepiece here is going to allow you to have the reticle appear clear to your eyes everybody’s eyes a little bit different descriptions.

A little different the way we see things in terms of the stigmatism etc are different.

So set it to where it looks clear to your eye.

I recommend pointing it like it the blue sky obviously not in the Sun and close your eyes a few times, move it around open your eyes back up and wherever it looks best to you set it and leave it there moving forward.

We have our magnification adjustment ring here it’s nice and smooth, it’s not super difficult so I do like that goes obviously from 2 to 10 power.

And the thing I wish it had that was I wish it had sort of like a little tab on it that would make it a little bit quicker but it’s not horrible.

I reviewed the vortex razor HD 1 to 6 a couple months ago and that was one of my cons about it was that the ring was super hard to turn this one is not like that.

So I definitely prefer this over that for sure it has a 30 millimeter tube which is good because 3000 meters probably the most common for rings and mounts etc out there on the market.

So if you have a particular set of rings that you like or mount it’s probably going to work with this scope.

They’re probably gonna make a set for this for your rifle. So can’t complain about that over here on the left side of the knob we do have out here on the side,

This is we’re gonna put your battery it’s powered by a cr2032 battery and that comes up just use a little screwdriver or a rim case rather.

And when you do so just hold on to this piece here which of course is your brightness adjustment because you don’t want to turn both at the same time it tends to be counter productive settings go from 1 to 10.

And what I like about it and I say this in a ton of different optics reviews that it has an in-between settings so very rarely do people ever want to have it on one of the two.

But sometimes people know that in a little light situation they’re gonna want it say between the 7 and 8 so you can keep it right on that spot right there so that way.

You only have to turn it one position to be in the position that you so I definitely like that it’s relatively difficult term which I like as well because you’re not gonna accidentally turn it on say if it’s in like a range bag in your car or something like that.

You’re not gonna bump it to where it’s just gonna be on and you don’t know it and when you go to use it battery’s gonna be dead I really do have our parallax adjustment here it goes from 20 yards out to infinity.

And I like the fact that it goes down to 20 yards as well simply because I know a lot of folks I like to zero at 20 or 25.

And then kind of move out to where they actually want to zero it and that means you’re I should have said get on paper so it’s gonna help you with that.

it’s also good for a lot of guys like to use these types of scopes on 22 caliber rifles which I find a little bit odd.

But I know folks do it there’s a lot of like rimfire challenge type stuff that goes on there in terms of competition and having it being able to be clear at the closer in settings certainly is a good thing.

The scope has exposed turrets which I know some folks like some folks don’t like it is what it is I think on something that’s a 2 to 10 magnification.

A lot of people are going to view it as a DMR or SPR type of role.

So I do like the ability to dial in should you need to do so so obviously we have our windage here it’s very crisp.

It’s very audible each click you know you’re making it.

And as you can see there as you move out both with the windage and elevation and let you know rotation you’re on by where it indexes off that little line so zero of course is all the way in.

And then all the way out is three so same thing here with your elevation.

And I also like how it has the little arrows telling you which way you’re moving same thing here marked R and L it seems like a small thing but when you’re behind the gun.

If you don’t have to take your head out of your shooting position to see which way you’re going that’s always a good thing.

So these are settable so you can basically get your 0.

Then take these little allen screws out and pop it back to zero so that way you know where your actual zero is for the rifle that it’s mounted on it also has a zero stop here on the elevation turret.

They have a great tutorial on our youtube page on how to set it which is what I used when I did it.

So I’m not gonna take the five minutes to explain it here but it’s a pretty simple stuff.

And then the elevation turret also has this little fiber-optic piece here which again from behind the scope looking down at it you can see pretty easy.

If you just pick your head up just a touch so you can see where you’re at when you’re dialing your elevation again from your zero point.

It’s gonna look like that so you’re gonna know that’s straight out of zero and you’ll know if you’re off you can need to make that adjustment.

When you go to purchase this scope for your DMR rifle, one thing I’m gonna have to decide on is of course the reticle and this one comes with both a mill or mrad version and the MLA version which is what we have here.

So we’ll just get into it real quick you guys should see the image it up here on your screen basically right in the center there.

It has a fine crosshair which is nice for zeroing getting in that very precise.

Point me personally adds your of mine at 100 meters and just use the MOA system for the rifle that it was on but you can see coming down its marked 4 8 12 16 20 etc.

All the way down on the right side I really like that it’s very easy to get lost and the reticle a lot of people will say that you can get lost in the turrets if you’re spinning turrets like in a competition or something like that.

I would say it’s just it’s easy to get lost and a reticle and those little numbers allow you to know where you’re holding over when you’re transitioning between targets because it definitely can’t happen. Particularly when stress is induced.

So if minimizes the likelihood with the numbers same thing is true there on your windage holds as well there’s no sort of like windage lines or Christmas trees type stuff that’s some of the more I guess advanced verticals we’d call it.

I have however I know a lot of guys kind of like simple reticles as well so this one would fall in line with that when you move up the vertical line there.

What you’re gonna see is it has some holdover positions which is nice. So if you’re shooting like down a hill or if you’re dialed in at 100 yards and something pops up at 10 yards for example you will have a reference point to use for that.

One thing that attracted me to this scope out of the PST VIPR tend to line was the weight of it so the size and the weight is pretty good for a lot of different applications in my opinion.

As you guys can see as my scale is a dying out I mean it comes in right at 27 ounces and that’s with the battery installed and overall it’s just over 12 inches long. So again I mentioned it earlier but sort of the SPR or a DMR type of role.

I think a 2 to 10 just is a great option one reason for that is a lot of folks will want to go with like a 1 to 8 or something like that.

Fine, however if you go to the one to eight that has a 30 millimeter tube you’re gonna have some eye box type of issues and with the two to ten it just gives you so much room to play with there regarding that your.

I release gonna be good I think this one’s just over three inches in terms of IRA leaf in your eye box compared to a one to eight with a thirty millimeter tube it’s just so much more forgiving so for those that don’t know.

What I mean by that is if your head isn’t directly behind the scope or you have some sort of awkward shooting position say like under a car from an awkward barricade, it just allows you to get the view of the reticle through the scope as it should be much easier than something that’s a little bit tighter.

So I think the 210 definitely gives you some advantages and of course you give up the 1x capability.

But depending on the use of the rifle and the role of the rifle it definitely can be an advantage I think we covered most of the technical aspects of the scope.

However I want to talk about my experience with it so I did request this from vortex and they sent it out for the review for test & Evaluation.

If you will and the first one I got in worked fine in every way besides one it basically when I would set the parallax it would be just be way off.

So if I had it set it like 25 yards the real parallax is that like a hundred yards if I had it set at 100 yards of real parallax was that like five hundred yards for example.

And you know that can be caused by user error and I’m not above that. So what I did was unmounted it to make sure I wasn’t clamping down too hard on.

I think I had a guy see super precision mount in there at a time.

And for those that don’t know, if you mount your scope mount too hard and you over torque everything it can bind the actual tube of the scope and actually put pressure on therea nd not allow the erectors mechanisms to move.

So I wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing that I completely on the mountain. It just went out in my backyard in the lake and played with it again with no mount on there. And I was having the same issues so I called vortex and a person answers the phone.

So it’s good just talk to a real person who’s in America and describe the problem I was having to them and they said yep sounds like something’s off just.

We’ll get you call tag and send it back and we’ll get it fixed so send it back in they sent again the shipping label paid for shipping went back in.

I had it back I think within within a week and a half is probably a week we can have and in my case they had a note in there they didn’t say what the problem was that the scope all it said was a customer reported issue could not be resolved.

And they had a a new scope in the box so that’s this one right here. I’ve had this one in for a few months and it works perfectly there’s no issues without all the parallax works as it should the turrets track as they should there’s again no issues in that regards so good to go there.

I just wanted to report that in terms of the customer service experience it seemed pretty good so if you have to use it which obviously we don’t want to have to use it.

But if you do they’re there for you so that’s cool let’s talk optical clarity because that’s always something that there’s absolutely no way.

I can tell you through a camera here even if I take pictures of the actual you know the lenses and the reticle and stuff like that you’re taking those photos through a bunch of camera lenses.

And then you guys are viewing it through the lens on that I’m recording this camera on and then you’re viewing it through a screen that the computer or phone that you’re watching this is on so it’s really hard to convey clarity.

So I will tell you this I’ve used their really high-end scopes so vortex makes awesome stuff that’s like you know for $3,500 and more.

And I’ve also used a lot of their budget line stuff and this is definitely better than their budget line stuff.

And it’s not as good in terms of particularly edge to edge clarity as their like 3500 ollar scopes which are awesome by the way but for something in this price point I guess we’ll discuss price point.

I think the MSRP is 1100 $49 if I remember offhand and looking around street price you can find them for like 800 $49 to $900.

I’ll put a link down below if anybody’s looking to pick one up so that price point.

I think it’s very competitive as good as most and better than many it’s it’s it’s very good.

I’ve never had a problem distinguishing what I’m looking at and what I mean by that is I’m looking downrange at some scopes especially when you’re out seven eight hundred yards dished regardless of a magnification level.

That’s when you start to see issues in terms of like is that a branch or is that a derail or if that makes sense so in terms of clarity and in details you go with your image it’s been very good I can’t complain about that.

At all is the reticle daylight bright again that’s relative some folks think if it illuminates it all during the day and you can pick up the difference between black then it stay light bright.

Some folks want like a point red dot bright, I’m just gonna roll on a picture here real quick, you guys can see this is like worried brightest day possible and that is on the 10 setting.

So you guys can make the call if it’s daylight bright or not either way it has an edge critical so the reticle itself is etched.

So there’s no way like in old scopes that used to actually have pieces that were in there that can move around that made the reticle that cannot happen on this type of scope so regardless. Even if your battery runs out and say hypothetically saying like a tactical type situation you’re on your to power and you hit your weapon light and you go to engage that reticle will be there no matter. what so that is good.

I think that’s pretty much it oh yeah it is made in the Philippines folks.

I was asked about that it is not made in America however the people you talk to a customer service arm in America you can speak English probably going just to who knows that is good.

If you guys have any questions about the scope you can always post them all in the comment section as always.

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